I don’t mind folks workin’ for a livin’ I think everybody should. But, when the folks we’re talkin’ about are getting’ paid by my tax dollars, I expect ‘em to at least tell us the truth.
I wrote before about the Mayor’s yappin’ poodle, and when I did, Little Lamar came chargin’ out of his dog house, snarlin’ and snappin’ tellin’ us all about how independent he was.
Here’s what he wrote:
My opinions are mine alone, and my blog is a personal website with four different writers and numerous contributors, not all of whom share the same opinions.
And then he says:
Your implication about the purpose of my website is absolutely false. I do not receive editorial orders from anyone and neither do the contributors to the website.
And then adds:
You'd like to directly marry anything and everything posted on my blog to Mayor Roy.
Well Lamar, from the looks of your latest posts, we ain't gotta do a thing. You're doin' a fine job of maryin' your posts to the Mayor with out any help from us. It's pretty plain to us, your opinions are bein’ dictated by the man who holds your leash, Jacques Roy. You jumped on the Mayor’s soapbox pretty quick over the SPARC deal. Just what were you boys tryin' to hide from the Town Talk? And to this day you’re still tryin’ to get us to believe the Mayor’s numbers on the sales tax allocation are real!
Try this one on for size Lamar…as long as you are getting’ paid by public dollars ya better tell the truth. Folks don’t like being lied to, and won't vote for 'em a second time.
About Me
- Grass Roots Gus
- I've lived in Central Louisiana most of my adult life and I've seen politicians come and go. One thing stays the same..If you're in politics, you're bound to be a rascal of sorts. I started this blog to let everyone have a say at pokin fun at those rascals.
13 comments:
Gus,
I read Lamar's answers to the question of reliable tax numbers. If this is the reasoning of the City of Alexandria, no wonder the rest of the parish is ready to take back their money.
Better yet, why did Lamar have to post pictures from the Broadway Resource meeting? Shouldn't those be on the City's website or is CenLamar becoming the official public relations outlet for hiz honor these days?
We don't really know what Lamar's job description is because Mayor Jacques won't release it.
One thing we do know, Lamar is the Mayor's mouthpiece, and anything he says on his website is COA propaganda.
Credibility? Lamar has none.
"One thing we do know, Lamar is the Mayor's mouthpiece, and anything he says on his website is COA propaganda.
Credibility? Lamar has none."
What numbers do you actually dispute?
You think it's acceptable to call me a liar, a poodle, to imply that I am unemployable, to gossip about my mother and my family, and to do all of this behind a thinly-veiled anonymous name. You, sir, have NO credibility.
Why don't you tell people who you are and what interests you represent?
Are you worried that the moment your identity is publicly known that you will suddenly be subjected to real, legitimate scrutiny?
You are lying about this issue. You are using deceptive mathematics to manipulate the facts, and yet you believe you have the right to call others liars. I have not lied about anything, sir.
All of the information I have sourced is from the Rapides Parish Police Jury, the United States Census Bureau, and the Louisiana Tech Business School's Population Estimates Program.
You think it's acceptable to call me a liar, a poodle, to imply that I am unemployable...
Yes I do Lamar...you’re a public employee...grow a thicker skin.
...to gossip about my mother and my family...
No one said ANY derogatory comment about your mother or your family unless you consider them allowing you to behave like a spoiled brat on money you didn’t earn, derogatory.
...and to do all of this behind a thinly-veiled anonymous name. You, sir, have NO credibility.
My credibility isn’t in question...yours is. You’re in the public arena. Expect to be questioned, and shot at. Take it like a man or get the hell out.
Why don't you tell people who you are and what interests you represent?
I am representative of the taxpayers of Rapides Parish who resent Alexandria getting two thirds of the available sales tax revenue per year. While Alexandria squanders our tax dollars on skyboxes at the Southern Classic, BBQ parties, Free concerts, art shows, spray pads, and other crap, the rest of the parish is driving on sub-standard roads and dilapidated bridges! Kids play in open ditches, and water systems don’t have the capacity to meet the growing needs of rural areas. Yeah Lamar, I represent every citizen of this parish who is sick as hell of putting up with surly cops when we go to your city to spend our money.
Are you worried that the moment your identity is publicly known that you will suddenly be subjected to real, legitimate scrutiny?
And whose scrutiny would be legitimate??? Yours??? Please....
You are lying about this issue. You are using deceptive mathematics to manipulate the facts, and yet you believe you have the right to call others liars. I have not lied about anything, sir.
You have Lamar...any way you look at it...School Board Allocation is not to be touched, and you damn well know it. Of the remaining portion of the revenue pie, Alexandria gets 66% with a 38% population base. Tim Ware, Donna Andres and David Crutchfield have all said that this is true. Who is the liar Lamar?
All of the information I have sourced is from the Rapides Parish Police Jury, the United States Census Bureau, and the Louisiana Tech Business School's Population Estimates Program.
Yeah, and when I look at those same numbers, they tell a whole different story. Who has the motivation to lie Lamar? Who stands to lose? You and your slick talking boss with his creative math. Alexandria is swimming in cash while the rest of the parish lives like third world residents. It’s un-acceptable, and if we get the chance to vote to take our money back, we damn sure will.
What you might consider is how a future political opponent will use Slick Jacques position against him in the next election.
Are you or are you not Neil Kavanagh?
"Alexandria gets 66% with a 38% population base. Tim Ware, Donna Andres and David Crutchfield have all said that this is true. Who is the liar Lamar?"
You know, Neil, you're the only person who has ever put it that way.
Alexandria receives 33% of the tax, constitutes 38% of the parish population, and generates 58% of the tax.
This proposal seeks to give some smaller municipal corporations 5 to 10 times more revenue than they can even generate.
You're not going to win this argument by calling Alexandrians spoiled liars. You're not going to win this by misrepresenting the Mayor of Alexandria, the information he presented, or the basic facts. You're not going to win by being hateful, ugly, vindictive, and petty.
And perhaps you're used to using your pulpit to bully people-- like you did to the student journalist at LSU-- but you're not going to railroad me over the basic facts.
Alexandria receives 33% of the tax, constitutes 38% of the parish population, and generates 58% of the tax.
Lamar, I’m growing tired of you splitting hairs over this. You sound like Clinton..."Depends on what your definition if "is" is..." Everyone, including every Mayor in the parish, the Parish Treasurer, Sales and Use Tax Administrator, and even your own David Crutchfield say that we’re talking about the splitting up of about 12 million dollars, and that right now Alexandria gets about 8 million of the 12 million. Unless you're using Jacques Roy math, that's 66%... get over it.
This proposal seeks to give some smaller municipal corporations 5 to 10 times more revenue than they can even generate.
So?????
Where the money is generated is of no consequence. Even your boss, slick Jacques said so. He told the entire PJ that where the money is spent does not figure into this. I believe he used the example of calling the mayor in Lafayette and asking for the sales tax revenue generated by Alexandria shoppers every weekend. He said that Lafayette’s mayor would… "laugh in his face."
This is a parish sales tax! Voted on by the entire parish, collected across the entire parish, administered by the parish governing body, and intended to be used by the entire parish for the benefit of the entire parish! When you have one municipality receiving a disproportionally large share of the proceeds, the voters have every right to demand a vote on the reapportionment of the funds in question.
Face it poodle boy, if this gets to the voters, you’re going down.
Neil,
What I am getting at is this: No one denies that Alexandria receives 33% of 100% or 66% of 50%, but to frame it as if Alexandria receives vastly more money than they generate is deceptive mathematics. Moreover, if you're doing to double Alexandria's allocation, you will also need to double Pineville's, the Police Jury's, and every other municipality's. Obviously, you're not going to make those claims for a reason, even though it would be the fair and consistent thing to do.
I understand you have an agenda here, and I remind you that you sparked this disagreement with your misinformed editorial. You accused the Mayor of manipulating numbers, which is simply untrue. In fact, by leaving out certain key numbers and by neglecting to mention that this proposal DOES NOT call for Alexandria's allocation to be proportional to its population (capped at 17%), you leave people with the impression that Alexandria is somehow being unfair, which is actually quite the opposite.
Again, I understand the way you play politics, and I think it's ultimately self-defeating and unproductive. Name-calling, bullying in a misplaced attempt at humor. And I do take it personally.
Neil, you are also in the "public arena," no matter how hard you try to hide behind thinly-veiled anonymous names. You give yourself away with your writing style, and, of course, your unending defense of your presentation of these issues.
When you lie about the Mayor's intent or the veracity of his presentation, you will be corrected. I will be more than happy to share with you the information we used, which, by the way, a responsible journalist would have asked for PRIOR to publishing an editorial excoriating the Mayor.
Until then,
Respectfully,
Lamar
PS: I think you will find that your anger over this issue is misplaced and that people are, in fact, working together.
I should clarify that although no one denies that 33% of 100% is also 66% of 50%, it's not appropriate to frame the proposal ENTIRELY in those terms IF you neglect to weigh other allocations similarly and if you neglect to disclose the arbitrary cap proposed for Alexandria (17%), which is what you had been doing, sir.
Lamar, I read your response...Just who in the hell are you talking to? You’re yapping away like I was someone else. My name is not Neil and I don't work for some half-assed newspaper in Tioga. I’m not in the public arena, but you damn sure are. And, when you self-important "officials" begin lying to us, the voters, I’m damn sure going to call you on it.
I’m glad to see you finally admit to the truth, that the COA gets 66% of the available revenue and only has 38% of the population. Furthermore, I have always maintained that the allocated percentages should be discussed with reference to the allocated tax amount. Forget the $12 million the School Board gets and focus on the $12 million everybody else gets. That’s where the discussion should begin and end. In that respect Alex gets 66%, Pineville gets 10%, the Police Jury gets 18%, and all other towns share 6%.
Now, do you really think Alexandria can make a case about how they DESERVE 11 TIMES MORE than the other towns in the parish get? (excluding Pineville) Especially when they have less than 40% of the total population?
Get a grip Lamar...
As to the 17% cap, I NEVER said I supported it, and don’t in fact support it.
I think what’s fair is a split along these lines:
Alexandria – 30%
Police Jury – 25%
Pineville – 25%
Ball – 7%
All Other Towns Split – 12%
Phase the plan in over 3 or 4 years to ease the budget shock to Alexandria and include Ball. Write the Tax Call and put it in front of the voters. If your slick talking boss is right, the proposal will fail anyway...what the hell are you poodles afraid of Lamar?
Maybe you realize the voters aren’t as stupid as you think we are and we’ll see right through your bullshit. Like I said before, if this gets to the voters, you’re going down hard poodle boy.
And don’t try to hand us that bullshit per capita dollar figure. Who pencil whipped that one up anyway? Your boss needs to brush up on his fractions!
"Lamar, I read your response...Just who in the hell are you talking to? You’re yapping away like I was someone else. My name is not Neil and I don't work for some half-assed newspaper in Tioga. I’m not in the public arena, but you damn sure are. And, when you self-important "officials" begin lying to us, the voters, I’m damn sure going to call you on it."
Umm.. honestly, who are you kidding?
Seriously.
I am done.
Neil, you can e-mail me at lamarw@gmail dot com or call me at 318-542-2969. Until then, I refuse to attempt at arguing with anonymous, self-righteous, misinformed propagandists.
Yeah, you are Done lamar, and so is your boss. Enjoy the next few years...Ya'll won't be returning to city hall.
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